We are all just rats in a cage.
You can listen to the audio here:
Sage Against The Machine Podcast Archive
If you have missed any shows they are now archived in a podcast. You can check them out on my blog. Or you can get them on your favorite podcasting platform.
Sage Against The Machine on Spotify
Sage Against The Machine on Stitcher
Sage Against The Machine Podcast on Amazon Music
Sage Against The Machine on TuneIn
Sage Against The Machine on Apple Podcasts